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11 Mar 2022

LEGAL AND INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY (IP) ISSUES IN PODCASTS

By Paul Kaindo and Faith Amatika-Omondi

1.0 Introduction
A podcast as a digital audio or audio-visual file made available on the internet for downloading 
to a computer or mobile device, typically available as a series, new instalments of which can 
be received by subscribers automatically. The word podcast is drawn from two words: ‘pod’, 
from iPod and ‘cast’ from broadcast. An understanding of what the iPod is (was) gives 
meaning to what a podcast does. It is the dissemination of recorded audio or audio-visual 
content over a digital platform. While podcasts are downloadable digital files, broadcasts are 
transmissions of audio or audio-visual content over electronic media to a dispersed audience. 
Podcasts are generally unregulated and may focus on certain defined topics. On the other hand, 
broadcasts are highly regulated. For instance, there are prescribed regulations on the airing of
local content which broadcasters must adhere to. Regulation 35 of the Kenya Information and 
Communications (Broadcasting) Regulations, 2009 provides for this. This is not applicable to 
podcasts.
2.0 How podcasts work
Podcasts are generally a discussion of any topical issue. Due to their unregulated nature, anyone 
can develop a podcast and put it out for people to listen to or watch. All that is needed is the 
podcasting software/app and a steady source of internet if the podcast includes more than one 
person in different locations. 
Podcasts take several forms; they could be interview podcasts, fictional podcasts, news recap 
podcasts, educational podcasts, etc. The duration of the podcast varies and there are no rules 
on the specific time it should last.
It is important to publish one’s podcast on a podcast app as opposed to other available channels 
for instance YouTube. This is important to retain the ‘podcastness’ in the podcast otherwise, 
there will be no difference between it and a YouTube channel. Some popular podcast apps 
include Google podcast and Podcast go. Take note of the terms and conditions of the podcast 
apps especially the IP Policy.
3.0 Protecting IP Rights in Podcasts
3.1 Copyright – this refers to the exclusive bundle of rights granted by the law to a copyright 
holder. The rights include the right of reproduction, adaptation, distribution, making available 
to the public, public communication, and broadcasting among others as provided for in s 26 of 
the Copyright Act. Under s 22(1) of the Copyright Act, works protected by copyright include 
artistic works, literary works, musical works, sound recordings, audio-visual works, 
broadcasts, and dramatic works.
3.1.1 Copyright in the podcast – the cumulative interaction between all the multimedia 
referred to above including the podcaster’s presentation all constitute a work of 
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copyright protectable either as a sound recording (audio podcasts) or as an audiovisual work (video podcasts). The podcast episode(s) therefore attract(s) copyright 
protection and any dealing in the podcast without the express permission of the 
podcast owner amounts to copyright infringement. The owner of the podcast 
should register the episode to help protect their copyright in it.
3.1.2 Ownership of a podcast – As an employee, any creation made in the course of 
employment is deemed to be the employer’s intellectual property. This means that 
if A is employed by B which is engaged in developing podcasts and making them 
available, any Intellectual Property Right (IPR) in the podcast that A develops 
belongs to B, subject to any contract executed between the employer and the 
employee. This is provided for in section 31 of the Copyright Act.
3.1.3 Third-party rights – a podcast is likely to include copyright works for instance 
music, text, images etc. belonging to third parties. It therefore is important to get 
rights clearance first before using them in a podcast. If the podcast owner is also the 
owner of such copyright works, it is recommended that they obtain copyright 
registration for them.
3.1.4 Scripts – some podcasts may include scripts which are used by the presenters, or 
interviewers/interviewees. These are works of copyright protected as literary works.
3.1.5 Logos – a podcaster may wish to design a logo which is distinct and a unique 
identifier for the podcast in the market. The logo can be protected by copyright as 
an artistic work.
3.1.6 Copyright in Streaming - Streaming involves reproducing copyright content. It also 
involves public performance and the exploitation of other exclusive rights of 
copyright holders. For instance, in the streaming of an event such as a wedding 
ceremony, copyright works such as sound recordings end up being publicly 
performed since the audience that can view the ceremony is wider than the 
traditional private setting. As such, rights clearance must be sought before the 
streaming of events where copyright works are in question.
3.1.7 Streaming of broadcasts - In the case of sports matches, and other broadcasts, the 
live streaming of such without the broadcaster’s authorization is an infringement of 
copyright in the broadcast. Therefore, it is important to obtain streaming licenses 
from the broadcasters to avoid infringement.
3.1.8 Streaming Channel Terms and Conditions - if the person streaming the content is 
the owner of the content, it is necessary to abide by the terms and conditions of the 
streaming site or channel. They should also get copyright registration for the content 
for instance the songs, photographs, audio-visual content, etc.
Copyright protection for artistic, literary, and musical works is for the lifetime of the 
author plus fifty (50) years. For audio-visual works and sound recordings, which is the 
category in which podcasts fall, the protection is for fifty years from the end of the year 
the work (podcast) is published or made public as provided for in s 23 of the Copyright 
Act.
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3.2 Trademark – trademarks protect the commercial origin of a product or service. They 
could be in the form of a name, logo, slogan, colour, numeral etc. In Kenya, trademarks are 
protected under the Trademarks Act, Chapter 506.
3.2.1 Name of the podcast – it is very important to give the podcast a name for 
identification in the market. The name should be distinctive and not descriptive. It 
should also be a catchy name/phrase to attract traffic to the podcast. Once a suitable 
name has been coined, the same should be protected under the Trademarks Act. 
3.2.2 Logo – in addition to copyright protection as an artistic work, a logo is one of the 
unique identifiers of a product in the market and is protected by trademark.
3.2.3 Goodwill/Intangible value – over time, the podcast may become very valuable due 
to its popularity. The podcast owner must be aware of this value and make wise 
decisions in case of licensing, sale, or any other monetizing venture. Consider 
coining catchy phrases, names, slogans, etc. for your podcast.
3.2.4 Domain names - Unique domain names must be obtained and registered as well.
This helps in adding value to the podcast.
3.2.5 Unregistered trademarks – along with the brand value that a podcast may accrue 
over time, some podcast owners may opt to not register the names, logos, etc. of 
their podcasts. This implies that when there is an infringement, the owner may not 
have the option of filing a claim of trademark infringement as provided for in 
section 7 and 8 of the Trademarks Act. Their recourse may lie in pursuing a passing 
off claim/tort under common law under s 5 of the Trademarks Act.
Under s 23 of the Trademarks Act, protection can be for an indefinite period provided
the proprietor renews it every ten (10) years.
3.3 Industrial Designs – Industrial designs protect the ‘look and feel’ of a product. They 
protect the physical tangible aspects of the product. They are provided for in the 
Industrial Property Act, No. 3 of 2021. Section 84 of the Act defines an industrial 
design as: ‘any composition of lines or colours or any three-dimensional form, 
whether or not associated with lines or colours, provided that such composition or form 
gives a special appearance to a product of industry or handicraft and can serve as a 
pattern for a product of industry or handicraft’.
As such, for audio-visual podcasts, certain physical appearances may be eligible for 
industrial design protection. The colour scheme of the podcast and any patterns in the 
background may be protected by industrial design. 
It is however advisable to choose the most appropriate IPR for any aspect of the 
podcast. Some aspects can be protected by more than one IPR and it is therefore wise 
to choose the most appropriate. For instance, any design patterns in the background, 
that are unique to the podcast may be protected by copyright (artistic works), trademark 
(shapes), or as industrial design (the pattern). 
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Industrial design protection can be for a maximum of fifteen (15) years, i.e., the initial 
five years renewable up to two more times as provided for in s 88.
5.0 Exceptions and limitations of copyright in podcasts 
5.1 Fair dealing 
There are certain legal exceptions and limitations concerning the exploitation of 
copyright works. Not all uses without the express permission of the copyright holder 
attract sanctions. Under Article 9(2) of the Berne Convention on the protection of 
Literary and Artistic works (1886) as amended in 1979 in Paris, the reproduction of 
copyright works is permitted provided it:
a) is for certain special cases
b) does not conflict with a normal exploitation of the work
c) does not unreasonably prejudice the legitimate interests of the author
These three basic exceptions have come to be known as the ‘three-step-test’ and they 
form the basis of national legislations on exceptions and limitations of copyright. In 
Kenya the second schedule of the Copyright Act provides for such exceptions and 
limitations, and they include quotes, criticism,scientific research, educational purposes, 
archiving purposes, etc. 
Therefore, the use of copyright works in an educational podcast or during the live 
streaming of an educational event, for instance, may be exempt from infringement 
claims.
5.2 Creative Commons
In addition to the statutory limitations, there exist other public licenses that permit users 
to use copyright works according to the laid down terms and conditions. Such licenses 
include the Creative Commons (CC) licenses which a podcast owner may license their 
podcast under. On the other hand, a podcaster may look out for works licensed under 
the CC licenses and use them in the podcast to avoid copyright infringement claims. In 
live streams, one should also endeavor to stream works (songs) licensed under any of 
the licenses. There are six CC licenses as follows:
I. CC BY: This license allows users to distribute, remix, adapt, and build upon 
the material in any medium or format, so long as attribution is given to the 
creator. The license allows for commercial use.
CC BY includes the following elements:
BY – Credit must be given to the creator
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II. CC BY-SA: This license allows users to distribute, remix, adapt, and build upon 
the material in any medium or format, so long as attribution is given to the 
creator. The license allows for commercial use. If you remix, adapt, or build 
upon the material, you must license the modified material under identical terms.
CC BY-SA includes the following elements:
BY – Credit must be given to the creator
SA – Adaptations must be shared under the same terms
III. CC BY-NC: This license allows users to distribute, remix, adapt, and build
upon the material in any medium or format for non-commercial purposes only, 
and only so long as attribution is given to the creator.
It includes the following elements:
BY – Credit must be given to the creator
NC – Only non-commercial uses of the work are permitted
IV. CC BY-NC-SA: This license allows users to distribute, remix, adapt, and build 
upon the material in any medium or format for non-commercial purposes only, 
and only so long as attribution is given to the creator. If you remix, adapt, or 
build upon the material, you must license the modified material under identical 
terms.
CC BY-NC-SA includes the following elements:
BY – Credit must be given to the creator
NC – Only non-commercial uses of the work are permitted
SA – Adaptations must be shared under the same terms
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V. CC BY-ND: This license allows users to copy and distribute the material in any 
medium or format in unadapted form only, and only so long as attribution is 
given to the creator. The license allows for commercial use.
CC BY-ND includes the following elements:
BY – Credit must be given to the creator
ND – No derivatives or adaptations of the work are permitted
VI. CC BY-NC-ND: This license allows users to copy and distribute the material 
in any medium or format in unadapted form only, for non-commercial purposes 
only, and only so long as attribution is given to the creator.
CC BY-NC-ND includes the following elements:
BY – Credit must be given to the creator
NC – Only non-commercial uses of the work are permitted
ND – No derivatives or adaptations of the work are permitted
The Creative Commons Public Domain Dedication
CC0 (aka CC Zero) is a public dedication tool, which allows creators to give up their 
copyright and put their works into the worldwide public domain. CC0 allows users to 
distribute, remix, adapt, and build upon the material in any medium or format, with no 
conditions.
6.0 Other legal issues in podcasts/live streams 
6.1 Image Rights – These are the rights of any guest or interviewee who appears or speaks 
in a podcast/live stream. It is important, as a podcast owner to have a written agreement 
with the guest that they are agreeable to their image, voice or any other attribute being 
used in public following the podcast/stream. This is necessary to prevent future claims 
of infringement of image rights.
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6.2 Contracts – in creating a podcast, several contracts may be executed. They include the 
following:
6.2.1 Podcast Software/App – whether executed physically or downloaded from an app 
store, a podcaster executes a contract with the owner of the software/app. They are 
bound by the terms and conditions of the software/app owner. It is therefore 
important to read and understand all the terms and conditions prescribed before 
executing. The same applies to streaming sites or channels.
6.2.2 Employees/Co-workers contracts – it is important to have a defined working 
relationship with co-workers as well as freelance staff. Have defined terms of 
engagement for instance on some important, valuable information that should not 
be divulged. It may be important to have non-compete clauses as well.
6.2.3 Where to stream or air the podcast – the podcast must be aired on some platform. 
This may be a webpage, or any other digital platform or channel. If the podcaster
or streamer doesn’t own the platform, they must execute a contract defining their 
terms of engagement.
6.3 Defamation/Libel 
Podcast aggregators, streaming channels, or apps may be liable for some defamatory 
uploads of individual podcasters. Claims of defamation may be levelled against a 
podcast aggregator/ streaming channel where individual podcasters post or upload 
defamatory content. As such, podcast aggregators should have clear terms and 
conditions that absolve them of such liability.
6.4 Inclusion of a logo or other commercial identifier of an independent entity in a 
podcast or stream. This may raise claims of trademark infringement. This is because 
the viewers of the podcast may associate the trademark/logo with the podcast. On the 
other hand, if the inclusion of the logo is incidental and not intentional, the podcaster 
may absolve himself/herself from liability (claims of copyright infringement). Such 
incidental inclusion is one of the exceptions and limitations of copyright provided for 
in paragraph 1(f) of the Second Schedule of the Copyright Act.
6.5 Copyright infringement claims – if a podcaster uses a copyright work without 
authorization, the podcast platform may be cited for copyright infringement. It is 
therefore important for the channels to have clear terms and conditions absolving them 
of liability in such cases. That notwithstanding, if served with a take-down notice by a 
copyright holder for the alleged infringement, the podcaster should proceed to pull 
down the infringing content as soon as is practicable. 
6.6 Data protection – the creation of podcasts involves the collection of personal data for 
instance, names and contacts of interviewees or other presenters. The processing of 
such data should be done in a way that adheres to the data protection principles 
enumerated in section 25 of the Data Protection Act.
7.0 Conclusion
Everyday comes with new uses of the internet. The challenges facing humanity also 
force us to invent and find new ways of surviving. The more we use the internet the 
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more we use our Intellectual Property Rights. The use or availability of such rights on 
the internet does not mean they are free to use. The right to use such works/assets must 
be obtained first or the user risks being cited for IP theft. Podcasts and live streams are 
some of the ways in which humanity has re-invented itself in the face of the COVID19 pandemic. People can still follow their favorite matches at the comfort of their homes 
and participate in the live chat just as though they were watching the match in a club 
together with their friends. However, all rights must be cleared to avoid infringement 
claims.
The writers are Senior Legal Counsels, Kenya Copyright Board
 

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